Should Virgin Media customers switch to Sky?
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Thursday 22 March 2007 | 151 Comments |
Since it's spat with Virgin Media over the price of supplying TV channels, Sky has been waging a hard-hitting campaign to persude Virgin customers to ditch the cable company and switch to Sky. Both companies offer a bundle of digital TV, broadband and phone calls but Virgin Media customers no longer have access to basic Sky channels including Sky One which is currently showing the latest series of Lost and 24. So what should Virgin customers do? Stay put or defect to the competition?151 Comments |
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by Julian
at 08:34 on 28 Mar 2007
Oh and one really cool thing you can even set the programmes you want to watch on record from your pc or mobile phone wherever you are.
So i say if your thinking about it yes definately change
The sky convert Report abuse
by Joey M
at 08:44 on 28 Mar 2007
OFCOM HERE I COME. Report abuse
by Paul
at 16:45 on 30 Mar 2007
Currently where i live, providing your area can accept the connection, virgin has begun upgrading everyone for free to 20mb connection speed!
Lastly, sky only removed FOUR channels from the service, Sky One, Two, Three and Sky Sports News. Personally i only watch Sky One and everything on here i can watch on the net anyway!
I think its far too early for anyone to make a decision on virgin, there just starting to set everything up how they want and upgraded various bits and pieces in their service. Give it a couple of months, let everything settle down then ask the question if you should switch or not! Report abuse
by david
at 23:59 on 1 Apr 2007
You can complain to OFCOM and they will be looking to consumer complaints and take ation agianst virgin media unfairly service, don't rely on to someone eles, the more people make complain, the more can be done here a website for detail and number http://www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/internet/isp/other/ Report abuse
by hackgenie
at 13:32 on 4 Apr 2007
by grimm
at 08:43 on 6 Apr 2007
I was with telewest for four years until they let me down, changed to sky tv and broadband package which was a nice easy switch, apart from the now virgin media groups inabillity to cancel my account on the day specified so i find myself still paying a subscription after they have collected my hardware. i especially liked the way BT did not gloat over my return. Report abuse
by DX
at 13:21 on 9 Apr 2007
Fautl wise, nothing is perfect. Sky has only recently set up broadband and currently has very little time or experience to allow many faults to occur. But these will happen with services. If you're a broadband fan then obviously go for Virgin Media. They are upgrading to 20mb next month in comparison to Sky's 8mb.
Both companies seem to offer good value services in general. If you're interested in a package deal to save money with all services, you'll save with Virgin Media. And as I said previously, if broadband is improtant, go for VM too.
However, if you're after a good quality TV service, go for Sky. They've got their Sky One, News etc channels, plus plenty of HD versions of their own channels. You're going to need to spend a few hundred on a box if you want HD channels though, plus a little extra per month on top.
The argument between the two companies has raised the question should I switch or which company should I go for, and its baffling customers. At this point, its down to what the individual customer wants, not whether one company is better than the other. Don't forget that switching may come across as easy but it may take time and some problems may occur, no matter which way you go.
Virgin Media are a very promising company, and seem to have a good future ahead of them; while Sky have experience in high quality TV service and will continue to offer for years to come. Report abuse
by Gods Apprentice
at 23:57 on 14 Apr 2007
by James
at 15:23 on 15 Apr 2007
by jim
at 02:38 on 25 Apr 2007
by jim
at 02:38 on 25 Apr 2007
by Wilks
at 12:00 on 29 Apr 2007
Nice 1 Jim, your company is unbelievably abysmal.
Internet speeds are slow because there is between 20 & 100% packet loss at peak times. Customer service is none existent and arrogant / insolent.
Go with Virgin Media at your peril! I am in a guild of 300 people and a clan of 40 people and they are all switching providers if they are unfortunate enough to be with this set of n00bs!
You have been warned! Report abuse
by tez
at 13:22 on 1 May 2007
Virgin Media, to me is the best, for at least 2 reasons.
1. I loose all my channels with Sky, when there is a thunderstorm, very annoying.
2. Virgin Media's ondemand service is great.
Regarding faults, you do get faults with any company, with Sky I am on my 3rd box, and have had a lot of freezing, sqaring pictures. With Virgins new Samsung box, and their new software, it's a lot faster than before. Report abuse
by Monkey
at 16:14 on 3 May 2007
Poor service, a box that freezes every time the wind changes direction, incorrect billing (still with no admittance of blame from VM), the worst customer service i have ever had the misfortune to have to use, responses ranging from arrogance, incompetence to down right lies.
My Internet speeds are very substandard, Report abuse
by nice
at 10:32 on 4 May 2007
by Example FM
at 14:07 on 5 May 2007
Now we have VM I cant stream to our server because of data loss, We are getting billed in March for services we had in December and have already payed for, NASTY customer services, Extremely high bills that footballers would struggle to pay.
BRING BACK NTL
DOWN WITH RICHARD BRANSON AND HIS USELESS VIRGIN MEDIA Report abuse
by colin
at 13:22 on 6 May 2007
by GY
at 15:19 on 6 May 2007
Virgin are trying to get everyone to settle for the slower speeds so they can cram more TV channels through the fibre. They are only interested in customers who will take all their services from them.
It's a shame as cable has the most potential for broadband but now that Branson has the monopoly on cable in the UK (whatever happened to the competition commission?) forget it!
I'm off to another provider.
G Report abuse
by Pigmisser
at 22:21 on 6 May 2007
by K
at 12:38 on 7 May 2007
I wanted to change phone options to free 400 minutes any calls a month after a whopping bill, rang and changed seemingly OK, but after another big bill discovered they had no record of me changing tariff. Unfortunately the customer is not always right I was offered a measly £12 off my bill instead of the correction being made to the date I was told the new service would be effective. Will be looking at a new BT line asap, despite the hassle and am considering ditching the rest to make do with freeview!! Report abuse
by Rainman
at 01:00 on 9 May 2007
The loss of Sky channels is not a great problem, but the cost per month should reflect the loss.
Like many people i am also frustrated with the Lock-up and freezing of the Cable channels. I dont care if they are updating, my cable still locks up.
The promised 20mb upgrade is a joke. if they cannot maintain the service to there present user base, how are they going to be able to maintain 20mb..
Virgin Media must be making far more money now, they a not paying Sky. They need to spend some of those savings on Bandwidth.
I have also noticed reduction in the speed when downloading mail.
The service seems to be going from good to very poor..
The cost of phone calls seems to have risen also..
Pay more, get less with Virgin Report abuse
by Desmond Walker
at 16:01 on 12 May 2007
by Desmond Walker
at 16:01 on 12 May 2007
by VERMIN-CAT-NORWICH
at 19:52 on 13 May 2007
Let's say one fifth of Virgin's appoximately 4.9 million customers are using just a 512k connection alone.
This would mean that Virgin Media has made something like £7 million by automatically 'upgrading' 512k customers (incidentally without increasing the speed to 2MB) in just one month, knowing that most of these customers will not bother to challenge such a huge company and push for a refund Report abuse
by tim@newcastle
at 00:03 on 17 May 2007
Most noticablly (please excuse my spelling) as mentioned, internet speed coupled
with major packet loss at peak hours.
With NTL:Telewest i had none at peak hours and would push a good 7Mbps which is reasonable. now with virgin i'm lucky to see 2mbps and if i really push somthing with multiple connections i might see 3mbps if i'm very lucky with very high packet loss.
However i'm going to give them until august to rectify the problem.
But they have now made another mistake too with they're "traffic shaping". which comes into effect when the 20Mbps is enabled meaning. as shown below.
low teir(2Mbps) from 4pm-midnight has a limit of around 200Mb before
being restricted to a measly 512kbps down and a worse 128kbps up.
Medium(4Mbps) same time limit. with a download limit of 350Mb before
being restricted to a low 2Mbps and a slightly but still pethetic 194kbps up.
Top Teir (10/20Mbps) same time limit. Dl limit of 3Gb before
being restricted to a reasonable 5Mbps and pathetic 256Kbps up.
This will be murder for me as i'm in a house with 3 other students. Of which out of the 4 of us, 3 are heavy users with our peak usage between 6-midnight. So i might if i'm lucky see my full connection for a couple hours in the evening before being throttled. Thanks Virgin media. if it wasn't for this one i might consider staying but as i said i'll wait until august but this was just kicking a customer who's trying to stay loyal when he's already down.
(speeds are not a direct quote from the website as i'm tired and don't want to look it up but they are around this area (and i think i got the upload speeds correct)). Report abuse
by Nick
at 11:16 on 19 May 2007
I lost the Sky channels BIG DEAL!!!! Virgin Media's programmes on UKTV Living and Virgin Central are far better than what i used to get with Sky One. I watched 24 and The Simpsons. Thats it!
24= Buy the box set for around £25
The Simpsons= Watch on Channel 4
I did used to have Sky World £40 a month for every channel. I didn't have any internet or phone from them. I really wanted cable at the time of when i subscribed, but Cable & Wireless didn't have it in my area.
2 YEARS LATER...
I noticed on my way to work, and bunch of men and women in suits knocking on doors. They told me who they were, and what they wanted to do. I told them "This whole area is a Sky dominated area, mainly because of the fact no one has a areial on the roofs!" 2 weeks later, they installed cable. And everyone switched.
Fast Internet (not broadband)
Digital TV
Phone
£37
Now i got divorced and moved house, and this house i now live in. Doesn't have a BT line, so i signed up to NTL. Broadband Phone TV £30.
Later on they merged, so i have the same service Broadband, Phone, TV £30. But now i have a whole range of programs like Hustle,Spooks,CSI,New Tricks. and the best CATCH UP TV!!!! I would like Sky one, but i won't switch to Sky.
I think FOX should be shown on Virgin TV, or at least buy the channel rights for all the Sky programs.
I never liked Sky, and hated that black minidish!. Report abuse
by Jason
at 10:59 on 20 May 2007
I cant comment on sky broadband or sky tv cause Ive never had it.
I wont be changing over though (sky seems to be the villain here forcing unreasonable prices on virgin) as im dont watch much tv and the missus is happy with all the living, uk gold channels, cooking channels etc plus the kids channels are there. Report abuse
by Sam - Edinburgh VM customer
at 13:17 on 20 May 2007
I've been a Telewest, NTL-Telewest, and now Virgin Media Customer for 3 years, having been on their fastest service (Internet) for much of that time.
Being on a 10mb connection I'd expect to get a fast service, but, since Christmas I've been getting barely dial-up speeds. My max download speed on a 10mb connection has been around 40-50k and internet browsing is unbelievably slow.
Sites like bbc.co.uk take about 10 seconds to load!?!
I've phoned repeatedly and their best advice is to downgrade my service. How on Earth does a company intend to prosper by recommending people downgrade and pay them LESS money? It's surreal.
I'd wholeheartedly agree with others in this thread...complain to OFCOM.
At the very least, call customer services and DEMAND a refund. I've been refunded 4 months worth of £35 (now £37) internet, but to be honest, I'd just rather have had the service they quoted me for.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/internet/isp/other/
Phone BT and ask them to check your address for a previous BT supply. I did and found out that I can be reconnected for free as there was once a BT line!
With internet services from companies like 'Be' with 24mb for £24 a month, why pay £37 for an over-inflated, under-performing service from an incompetent company?
VIVE LA REVOLUTION! DOWN WITH VM!
Sam ;) Report abuse
by Alan
at 07:38 on 21 May 2007
by Mark
at 22:07 on 23 May 2007
There is always that 1 or 2 percent that is unhappy with a service, I've been with telewest, ntl:telewest and now virgin media since before they even offered broadband, I went from 1mb to 2mb to 4mb to 10mb, I sometimes have had packet loss problems, but since they switched me onto UBR after sending emails to their tech support my connection has been OK, touch wood its been great since I started, barely any downtime whatsoever, and its unmetered, unlike ADSL products where you have unlimited downloads but you are subject to fair use policies, I work for an ADSL provider myself, so I know the score on both levels.
I'd go for cable, and stick with it ... lot more hassle changing than its worth sometimes.
Only reason I used to watch sky one is because the last half of the final season of stargate was being aired here first, and last two episodes I missed because of that, but half of you dont realise you can watch most tv programs (that are popular) either on streaming video, or download the episodes from various sources.
Packet loss is annoying though, especially while playing online games ... Report abuse
by stew
at 13:03 on 24 May 2007
but even when i behave myself with my internet like just browse websites its still slower then a turtle on dope. i just got on this page by chance by typing "virgin internet being slow"
when i ping a website i get a 20% - 50 % packet loss when i need the internet to maintain my computers and stock
is "virgin" meant to be an ironic title for services that are always ****** kinda like their train service Report abuse
by Chron
at 13:31 on 24 May 2007
I can only connect to the american servers, but not my English Servers because of the terrible PacketLoss (6.6% - 10.0% - which is unplayable!)
Virgin Media are no doubt the worst ISP's you could ever go with, I wouldn't recomend them to anybody, unless they sort them selves out by fixing/helping people with these problems. Report abuse
by Martin G
at 12:19 on 25 May 2007
by marcus
at 18:27 on 28 May 2007
I have phoned Virgin 3 times already, and the same excuses keep being told over and over again as they read from their manuscripts in front of them. ( You can insult someone's intelligence some of the time, but not all of the time).
I mean, does it really take weeks to change their Database and solve Broadband diagnostic problems. Has it come to the stage that technology is advancing to quickly for the technicians' to keep up with? Or could it possibly be, there's not enough of the old school left? I wonder.
My advice is to contact customer services and ask them for a rebate, if you have been affected by broadband. We could afterall re-name it SLIMBAND ...lol ... Report abuse
by apple
at 21:55 on 28 May 2007
by John
at 19:07 on 29 May 2007
by Lukas
at 16:01 on 3 Jun 2007
by Lukas
at 16:02 on 3 Jun 2007
by michael
at 18:57 on 4 Jun 2007
by Ann
at 16:46 on 8 Jun 2007
I have no problems with Broadband speed or telephone with VM. I have experienced a few teething troubles since Virgin took over and yes, my telewest box freezes sometimes, but their Customer Services are free, responsive, polite and helpful. Sky made me a very tempting offer to return to them. It would be a cold day in hell before I would do that. Instead, I rang Virgin Media Customer Services (free) and asked them to better it. They did, so I'm still with the better company (in my opinion) at a better rate. Report abuse
by AK
at 23:02 on 10 Jun 2007
All seems well for a while, then i notice my broadband is starting to do strange things, when i'm playing online games, a few routetraces, and notice a load of packet loss within the VM network. okay, few glitches, they happen, paid no notice.
Now i find out, that with their traffic shaping, my 20meg line, is no longer a 20meg line for most of the time that i'm online. last test i did, 2.5meg, not quite as bad as some reports of dialup speeds, but compared to what i'm used to, rather pants.
So, slightly miffed, i read up a bit, and think, okay, if i want to download, i'll do it at night, i have the ability to do this, so no problem.
Then came the "new & improved" tv guide. Annoyed is not the word.
It was bad enough to discover my channel order had been messed up, imagine my complete disbelief to discover that you can no longer change the channel order, the kids are constantly nagging me to change channels, because they're so used to just going up a few channels from where i usually watch, to go through god knows how many channels, to get to the 700's where all their programs are.
Cheers VM, thank you for making my decision to stick with you, a foolhardy one.
I really don't want Sky, I don't want a BT phoneline, but all i'm seeing is one mistake after another, I really can see no choice.
I'm going to phone VM tomorrow, when i'm not quite so annoyed, and insist that they stop messing with the service that i originally signed up for, otherwise i'll have to go elsewhere. And if they threaten me with a £50 disconnection charge, i'll be down to Swansea, quicker than they can say "Irate welshman" Report abuse
by tessa
at 16:01 on 12 Jun 2007
by chris
at 01:08 on 14 Jun 2007
christmas just gone i let sky go for ever, and put my dish on astra @ 19.2 deg for the free stuff,, ok sky are being petty at the moment, with removing the few channels that they have, even after all that, virgin are doing a joint venture with sentanta sports, for a new sports new channel for cable, but virgin are not being petty, they are even allowing it to be broadcast on sky,
on the internet side, i have had bt broadband and sky broadband, max line speed on both 500k, and i have been told that this will not improve with the roleout of the 21cn service,
but i have always had cable broadband as well, when i was on the 10mB service i got the full 10 mB always 1.2mb transfer rate when downloading, maybe down a few k's the odd times but not often, i am now on the 20mb service and although i have never got the full speed yet, it vary's between 18mB - 19.2mB, with a very good transfer rate of approx 2.4mB per second, dependant on download site, but has never been lower that 2.0mB per second, ok i wont say they are perfect in what they do, i am lucky i am an ex telewest customer,and the service from telewest in my area has always been great,
people dont seem to realise that virgin is a mish mash of compleatly different networks and systems, and somehow they have to get them all working os one system, this is going to take a while to get right due to the ntl infrastructure being different than the telewest infastructure, and considering the vast difference between them , i think virgin are doing a great job, ok from what i can see and have read it's the ex ntl service that is suffering the most at the moment,
but it will even out and get resolved as both systems get inagrated,, and i also dont like what they have done with regards to spped restrictions at certain download points, but on reflection it is one of the fairest at the moment,the amount you can down load is still unlimited, it's just the speed at which you can do it,
and lets face it, capping or what ever you call it is now a reality for all broadband no matter who the service provider, and this is the way it will always be, due to the lack of investment in the telecomms industry in general, it seems to be the norm in british industrie and commerce, to charge a LOT but spend LITTLE, Report abuse
by Deen
at 15:18 on 20 Jun 2007
by Josh
at 20:01 on 21 Jun 2007
by James
at 22:21 on 24 Jun 2007
by ok branson pays
at 21:21 on 25 Jun 2007
Here we go i have been a telewest tele/ntl customer
for 8yrs i use my pc for gaming never had much bother,
until bransons babies took over i have 10mg line but every week it just goes mental. Have phone tech supp since march
most of them said no no nothing wrong, then in april 1 guy from scotland said ohh yes you have a problem its been ongoing since MARCH!!!!! AAArGGGGGGGGH
it was never fixed. i was back on the phone last night.
the guy that i spoke to was very informative. He said "ive spoke to the second line tech and hje agreed there is a problem in you immediate area however you are due to get the 20mg upgrade so (WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO FIX YOUR PROBLEM UNTIL THEN) can you believe this crap and to ad insult to injury next week we are gonna be charged 25 pence per min a call to tech support.
sorry this is the last resort they have taken away programmes and channals from my tv now they are gonna charge me to report a problem bit of a liberty consedreing i never had a problem until they took charge !!!!! Report abuse
by che
at 10:23 on 26 Jun 2007
by Peter
at 23:46 on 26 Jun 2007
I still have a 2.5Mb connection today! Report abuse
by tracy
at 11:20 on 29 Jun 2007
i want to switch but as i have read it is more hassle than its worth. i have been told that sky is more expensive that vm. connection fees ,line rental and after a year the box belongs to u so therefore any probs u will have to pay for an engineer, im all about saving money. and it seems these companies are all about making money and stuff the customers.
if this continues and im not locked up i will be phoning about getting lots of info about switching. Report abuse
by Helen
at 15:06 on 30 Jun 2007
Haven't been able to get through to them on the phone, so tried other methods. I wrote 2 letters and 2 emails letter today, which didn't deal with the problems that I was having and they even had the cheek to say that they had been trying to reach me for weeks but couldn't get through!
I don't have a problem with my phone or broadband and I don't want to go back to having a BT line, but Virgin are getting on my last nerve. Report abuse
by keith
at 15:44 on 3 Jul 2007
I am also having problems with virgins service. When it was NTL I had no problems and I have had there broadband for over 4 years.
But now, I keep having problems with disconnections and slower speeds. I phoned them and they sent out a modern and they said it would be faster and better because the signal would not have to go through the set top box. Its still not right.
I think they have a cheek also to introduce charges for their broadband help lines.......that's to deter people from getting their help, anyway why should you have to pay for their so called great service.
Also why are these helplines run from India or somewhere else foreign...we need to understand what we are being told in English, its hard to understand most tech talk in English as it is. By the way I have read in other forums that sky broadband is as bad.
Why in the UK do we pay sky high prices for substandard services, I wish this government would do more to protect us. Report abuse
by steve Randall
at 16:15 on 4 Jul 2007
Unbelievably bad customer service. They just don't know what each other are saying and no records kept of calls made. All I want to do is cancel my account and get out of there! My only option as I cannot remember my password is to move (as I am) and allow the bills to mount up and let them find me. NTL were not good (I was with them from 2000) but since they were taken over by Branson's lot there has been a massive price increase (with no warnings), a very expensive rate help line introduced and a drop in customer care. Somebody really needs to shout about this and then get all of us (as I am) to vote with our collective feet. Branson is right to sell the company to a private equity group and get shot (even though I notice that he is still going to be the majority owner). Report abuse
by time to pay update
at 21:04 on 5 Jul 2007
i have been promised 3 callbacks i am still waiting
i have been told that the problem with my net is the junction box at the end of my street so i am now going to take a pickaxe to it and get it fixed and the 1st manager to knock on my door shall get knocked on his arse please excuse my mouth but i have been at this for 5 months. Report abuse
by David
at 22:23 on 5 Jul 2007
Trouble is with cable TV, more so with Freeview set top boxes the video signal is that compressed it makes the face skin tonal quality look like they have plastic skin.... things are much improved with sky until you come across an American channel that is.
They try to cram as many programmes as possible in a narrow space.
David
Nr. Manchester UK Report abuse
by Alex
at 23:02 on 5 Jul 2007
Indian call centre staff who don't have a clue whats going on and can't even understand you over the phone line.
20Mb connection? Think I'm maxxed out at about 1.5Mb... useless.... Report abuse
by Harry
at 19:48 on 7 Jul 2007
TV service went down about 3 weeks ago an engineer said fault was due to rejigging the services and would settle down in next 24 hours, 2 weeks later lost TV service, was told it would be 3 days before an engineer was available, after much complaining he arrived next day, took 2 minutes to fix fault which was unknown, one week later (now) TV service down again this time l've been told the earliest they can send an engineer is next saturday, 8 DAYS WITHOUT A TV.
Don't have an ariel which is why l'm with cable.
Will miss Wimbledon, last episodes of Heroes etc.
Is this really acceptable from a Service Provider.
Looking for other options now for all 3 services but do begrudge paying BT line rental for doing nothing and as BT was a Public Utility Company and lines were originally funded by taxpayers money before privatisation. Report abuse
by Aaron
at 10:23 on 13 Jul 2007
I was a bit gutted when Sky pulled, in my opinion, their best channel; Lost, New Simpsons... But the on demand feature seemed promesing, and at first it was. I don't know if anyone else has had the same problem but sometimes when you try to watch some catch-up TV it started up fine, with the play, fast farward... icons in bottom left of screen, but the desired program never started. Also I have noticed that the choice of pay-per-view movies has become somewhat more limeted than the initial build up of the fairly new and classic.
Anyway, getting a bit cheesed of with Virgin's service going downhill I decided that when I moved flat's at the beginning of July i wouldn't take the service with me, I would simply get disconnected and pay for the last month of my 12 month contract up-front. I beleived that doin this would be no problem as Virgin's terms and conditions state that if a contract is canceled before the end of the contracts minimum period you simply have to pay for the remainder if the contract. But when i rang Virgin to arrange this it was a diferent story. After being reffered to pretty much every department you could think of, i was told that i would have to take my services to my new home and complete my 12 month contract, before i could cancel. As I had read the terms and conditions I could see tha trap that Virgin was settng, as a new address means a new cotract, thus another 12 month before i can cancel my services. But apparently my knowledge of this issue made no difference as the manager, who I was speaking to at the time, told me that i must allow my services must be re-connected in my new preoprty, but assured me that a note had been made on their system that after moving i will not start a new contract and that I intend to cancel my services at the end of July. I reluctantly agreed, asuming that this was Virgins last ditched attempt of keeping some custom.
Ha!
On the 3rd of July I rang Virgin to confirm cancelation of my services at the end of the month, I was treated as a new customer and told that as I had just started a new contract I must continue services for 12 months or pay for the whol year in advance; no notes had been made on their system and the man I arranged it with, over several calls, could not be contacted. It seemed that I had taken the bait and fallen into Virgin's net.
As an attempt to resolve this matter, I contacted Traiding Standards were I was advised that according to The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations, any new contract made via long distance methods; phone, internet... allows the customer a 7 day period, from the date in which the services are installed, to change their mind and cancel their contract without penelty.
Another phone call and conversation with a manager later, and I am told that I am indeed entiteled to cancel my contract under the cooling off period, and asked weather i would like to end my services today.
Yes!
Now the 13th of July and my services are still active, after ringing them almost every day about this issue, nothing has ben entered to the system of my intention to disconect, and yet again the manager in question cannot be contacted. Also, no-one else can help me because I am over my 7day cooling of period and the only evidece I can give of my cancelation within the 7 day's, is dropping the name of a manager who obviousely had no itention of ever stopping my services.
I have now canceled my Direct Debit to Virgin and put all of their equipment in a box. I am sure that they will contact me when my payments are due.
My property has a BT line, so when this is all sorted I intend to connect to BT and get Sky's, See, Surf, Speak, package. Virgin Media Suck! Fact! Report abuse
by time to pay update AGAIN
at 20:03 on 16 Jul 2007
and also0207981 3040 ofcom Report abuse
by John Cameron
at 07:58 on 17 Jul 2007
The standard free ( NETGEAR) Wireless Modem/Router that I received works similar to remote control - line of sight - as when it's line of sight you get a *very good to excellant signal, but the minute their is an obstacle, then you get a very low to non-existant signal.
* at least Upto 10 metres.
I spent 1 hour 3 minutes asking Sky's technical support if and what high street alternative it was safe to purchase.
After I managed to speak to a line manager; I was informed of the encryption.
Sky's technical support is absoloutely useless. THEY JUST DON'T LISTEN. Report abuse
by Kestor Wun
at 16:45 on 24 Jul 2007
The trouble is that it seems to me all communications companies are just as bad. I have just given up trying to move my line back to BT as their email system is currently faulty. On the phone they state free to switch back, in their letters they list a charge of £124.99, when called they say this is a mistake but will not put that in writing.
If I do ever get my line sorted I will not switch to Sky, but will move to TalkTalk & get a Freeview box. May also have lousy service, but at least is cheap. Report abuse
by Bacca
at 18:09 on 27 Jul 2007
What most people are actually encountering is a massive reconstruction of the UBR's across the country not only for people to receive 20mb, but to also receive the forcasted 50mb that they are currently testing.
This has been in the pipeline a long time ago.
Customer service issues is due the movement of 85% of calls being taken offshore, this I think is to clear off the debts the ntl and telewest merger created.
This has also been in the pipeline with a lot of other companies too, it makes financial sense.
Lastly, the 25ppm charge is to deflect the morons that call in about their printers, PC hardware/software that cause huge cues; infact 70% of calls are nuisance.
I've ran a solid 10mb (1200k downloads) for the last year, although I have configured my Firewall and Router correctly, something i notice in forums that a lot of people don't bother doing.
I haven't really tried their TV system as such, but from experience I believe Sky's is better.
Imo
Sky = Good TV System
VM = Good future proof Broadband utilising the fiber optic network
*sky use the old copper wire system, this WILL become obsolete! Report abuse
by phatflaps
at 14:37 on 2 Aug 2007
I left them went to bt, then went back to virgin due to the lack of freeview in this area.
my 2 meg service was quite good. so i opted for the 4meg which was also good for a week. I now get 20% packet loss on all my tests and couldnt be assed phoning a virgin call center. Tried to many times before.
So, if you want a more reliable broadband connection go with adsl/bt (my adsl was sweet as a nut for 2 years) Report abuse
by PHIL
at 17:25 on 13 Aug 2007
by Liamf2
at 03:34 on 14 Aug 2007
But yes, GO TO SKY EVERYONE! ANYTHING! ANYTHING AT ALL IS BETTER THAN THIS ABSOLUTE PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A PROVIDER!
Virgin Media, absolute disgrace.
Would please me to see them choke. Report abuse
by Aaron Alderson
at 14:51 on 17 Aug 2007
Yes, I do sell upgraded (my version) virgin media software.
I would be please to see Virgin Media shut down then becoming Telewest Broadband again! Report abuse
by XYZ
at 18:54 on 17 Aug 2007
The place suffered from extremely low staff moral - I visted a number of VM offices during my time only to find empty desks everywhere. The staff numbers have been decimated - I rang a number of staff one week only to be told the next they were "on gardening leave".
I would say they were the lucky ones....!!!
Numerous projects were either canned or delayed due to resource problems or financial problems.
I cannot wait to work for a 'proper' well run company!
RANT OVER!!!!
XYZ Report abuse
by I have no name
at 18:16 on 24 Aug 2007
I am phoning BT today for a line switch, just not looking forward to those reported "Thunderstorm Freezing" cases, but I think it will be fine, not many thunderstorms down south here in London. Report abuse
by I have no name
at 18:35 on 24 Aug 2007
by sv
at 13:20 on 29 Aug 2007
by sv
at 13:23 on 29 Aug 2007
by Mark
at 17:47 on 31 Aug 2007
I really did not want the hassle of having to reinstall and rewire all my phone points but I had no choice, Virgin Media had become a no hoper.
Without warning they increased my monthly subscription to £44 (I had been paying £26) This was for 2mb BB, free weekend telephone calls and their medium TV package ( so not a particularly great package anyhow)
I was told that they could not continue to subsidize my subscription because it was not fair on other customers, but it was they who 12 months previous, had offered me this package to prevent me from switching to Talk Talk.
And on this they renegaded on the BB, I was initially told I could have 4 mb, but after signing up was told I should not have been offered this.
I was also billed £32 per month because they had no record of me being offered the package at £26 PM.
I had to fight nail and tooth to get the £6 rebated.
upon informing them that I was leaving I was passed to their customer loyalty Dept and was informed that I was getting a good deal from them, they guy on the other end of the phone didn`t even attempt to offer me a better deal.
To my annoyance they also cut my phone off immediately, but they did apologize and put me back on within the hour.
I have now had Sky installed along with up to 8 Mb BB & free evenings and weekend calls for £26 PM ( I have to pay £11 line rental to BT on top of this) so £37 PM.
Ironically somebody from VM telephoned me today and offered me their top package of TV, BB and free weekend & evening calls for £30 PM if I canceled Sky and stayed with them.
A little like bolting the stable door after the horse has fled. Report abuse
by Tel
at 15:35 on 1 Sep 2007
VM Talk service should be OK when it's switched over - I've only been waiting 37 days so far.
The 'Free' VM Freeview digital box I received is faulty and doesn't work and I have had totally useless tech support from VM over all these issues.
I can't wait until my contract term has ended - another 11 months to go:( Report abuse
by Smirn
at 13:46 on 2 Sep 2007
My telephone has been off for over a month. I rang them from a mobile phone to be told it was ringing at the exchange. OK fair enough, I had gone out and brought a new handset I knew it was not my equipment. £5.50 worth of credit later the guy (in not very good English) said an engineer would be sent out. Credit went on the mobile, call was terminated. No engineer for a Week, sent an email from the PC, to explain the situation and the fact I do not want to waste more money phoning from a mobile telephone.
Got a letter a week later saying, 'We are sorry you are unhappy with our service'. 'Normally it takes 10 days to sort a problem but as the number of occurances is high it will be a minimum of 15 days before we can process your request'.
This last 7 days we have had no broadband for 5 of those days. We are unable to report this fault as we have no telephone and I fear the Email a problem approach is 'not very good'.
This service costs me £82 a month. The equipment will be going out the window and launched onto the front lawn if it is not sorted by next weekend.
Off to get a BT line this week they can stick thier service up where the sun dont shine. Report abuse
by awconnor
at 13:04 on 12 Sep 2007
The TV service is useless, box locks up regularly and has far fewer channels than and a lot of the 1 channels are missing which are really useful.
The broadband service is also RUBBISH. I am a high volume user on the '20mb' line which in fact is only a 20Mb line AFTER MIDNIGHT. Prior to midnight, the best you can expect is 15-16Mb sometimes as low as 10Mbs. I can accept contention on a ADSL line but on fibre ? This is particularly annoying since Virgin sell this on the pretence that it is the fastest available - all the time - clearly it is not. You will SUFFER as much with LOW SPEEDS ON VIRGIN as with ANY other ISP.
The REALLY galling thing is that 48 hours before they rolled out the 20 mb upgrade (which incidentally was free to ALL 10mb users) they started charging something like £1.50 per minute for broadband support when previously it had been FREE... Talk about a money spinner.. lets screw up the newbies connections and charge them £1.50 a minute to sit on hold while we count the money... Brilliant, at least it would be if the motives weren't so obviously mercenary and transparent.. That REALLY sticks in my throat. So all in all, Virgin are a bunch or rip off merchants who are systematically tweaking down the desirable freebies and quality of service in favour of profit. Sky on the other hand are increasing the freebies and quality of service whilst REDUCING their prices. So if you are thinking of signing up to Virgin because you think the tv service or broadband quality is better than elsewhere that costs less, DON'T BE A FOOL, keep your money out of Richard Branson's pockets and pay less for Sky tv and get yourself broadband from BT or BE. You can send me half of the two or three hundred quid that you'll save too if you like. :) only kidding, spend it on your significant others or a Sky HD box. Report abuse
by edmund
at 18:42 on 14 Sep 2007
They are simply money grabbers Report abuse
by JB
at 21:19 on 14 Sep 2007
by JB
at 21:21 on 14 Sep 2007
by Warren
at 10:52 on 15 Sep 2007
by Ian Darley
at 10:44 on 17 Sep 2007
by Mr Angry
at 12:02 on 17 Sep 2007
Virgin Media "support" line is fruitless, always claiming there are "maintenance works going on in your area", but when pressed for details, there are none. It's a scam. I've only stayed this long because i'm moving house soon and didn't want the hassle, but my service is not working, so I am forced to change. What Virgin don't realise is that in my job I am asked for my opinion on Broadband providers all the time. My first recommendation would now be "Not VM". Report abuse
by Brenda
at 13:20 on 25 Sep 2007
Rubbish service. Report abuse
by huh
at 14:13 on 25 Sep 2007
i dont care what they are doing in the future. I am paying for a service now - a 100% fully working service; when you buy a pair of shoes you dont take the shoes if there are no laces do you? why? cos they wont stay on! the same with broadband - im paying for a service that works....all that virgin does is SUCK.
Ive complained over and over again about this via phone. I get through to a recording, which gives me new numbers to dial, then they pass me from one number to the other....WASTE OF SPACE & TIME. oh they offered me £3 refund for the inconvenience of the call.....what ABOUT MY INTERNET i cannot log ONTO???? do i get a refund for that? SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH.
i cant do my internet banking, so im penalised with a fine, i cant run my business, so i lose customers, i cannot answer emails I CANT LOG ON.
AAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH. Report abuse
by richard
at 21:22 on 3 Oct 2007
Now when i ring up to complain , im charged 25p per minute , to talk to some indian in another country , shame virgin took over im now serioulsy having to think about changing isp for first time in last 6 years .
call center go abroad because its cheaper for the companies to pay some indian , so why the bloody 25 charge a minute for me having to complain about there crap connectivity
virgin obviuosly cutting corners trying to go cheap as possible , id rather have what i had at the cost of 5 pound more /; Report abuse
by Aidan Rosenberg
at 13:29 on 9 Oct 2007
by Three
at 16:36 on 14 Oct 2007
i think alot of knock cable for no reason, i can watch digital tv in a heavey storm, but with your little low bandwith lnb you cant. still the 500 movies on demand kills skys 12 Report abuse
by John McGee
at 12:54 on 15 Oct 2007
I am completely dissapointed with their adsl service, I'm meant to get up to 8MB depending on the usual factors, etc, etc but I'm less than half mile away from exchange on a excellent quality line (as theyve said on many occasions) your lucky if I get 1MB on a good day. Really is appauling. I'm now looking at switching to someone else just need find the best provider. Report abuse
by C
at 22:05 on 24 Oct 2007
Do they just make this up as they go along? Where is the continuity? Why the charge anyway? Other companies will just send through a free replacement card, what makes a VM piece of plastic more expensive. It's certainly got nothing to do with quality of service or even viewing. The box freezes for apparently no reason, the menu takes far too long to load up and some of the nicities that other companies offer (ie to be able to see what programs are coming up after 4am the next morning, or linking series).
Terrible service Report abuse
by birky bob
at 15:11 on 28 Oct 2007
by Mark Breivold The Hit Man
at 22:08 on 30 Oct 2007
by Mr unhappy
at 20:44 on 22 Nov 2007
i have speeds at peak times of no more than 250kbps (should be up to 2meg) i have complained, as i'm sure many of you have, but its just a waste of time.
today i rang them to ask for an email address, so i could make a complaint. can you believe it, they gave me a false address......!!!
i then rang to complain about this, and they told me that the only avenue of complaint was the Royal Mail........Cmon, i thought Virgin Media was a Broadband/telephone company. this is like being told that i have to send a pigeon to Royal Mail if i want to complain about their service, anyway when i expressed this to the moron in customer services he slammed the phone down on me...
they are obviously laughing at us all, they have no route for complaints, so they don't essentially receive any. Report abuse
by ali
at 11:58 on 24 Nov 2007
Virgin is being managed by a bunch of rookies.. I've had virgin for 2 months now.. still have not been able to get the phone installed. I've launched 3 complaints but no one bothered calling back.. I am trying to discontinue but even that seems to be an impossible task.
the only option is to instruct the bank to not honour any bills .. maybe they will call me then.. its a nightmare.. seriously.. don't go for virgin .. you'll regret like me.. Report abuse
by Smee
at 21:21 on 26 Nov 2007
At least 3 people who actually work for the Virginmedia ADSL Faults / Provisioning dept have swapped their free Virginmedia ADSL service for a paid Sky service.
:oD they can't even give it away.
Love,
A dude in the know. Report abuse
by Rob
at 22:47 on 1 Dec 2007
by Someone
at 21:34 on 7 Dec 2007
The support line's actually based in Newport, South Wales.
I'm sure the people of Newport will be pleased to hear they've been promoted. :) Report abuse
by Grazza
at 23:47 on 14 Dec 2007
Have had Sky & multiroom for a few years, no service issue's, but they charged me an EXTRA £400 in the last year, for not being able to call back to my phone. When I queried this billing, i was told that they had informed me of the extra charges, well they had issued warnings 6 months after first charging the excess charges. I had also engaged the tech support dudes on many occasions, but this did not wash. I wrote to sky subscription services, and received a very unsympathetic letter back, this prompted me to can all sky services on principle!
So, I decided to put all my eggs in one VM basket and ordered the VIP package, based on the broadband experience, the VIP package is due to be installed at the end of this month. True to sods law, immediately i had ordered this new service, I had a fault with my cable modem, now this problem was sorted out swiftly, (once i could speak to someone in the UK call center), as i knew it was a power supply problem with the box, a new cable modem was supplied within two days, I installed, registered the mac address, no problems. The real problems started when the phone line went dead (2 weeks ago now) this was/is interesting. I somehow managed to log a call without calling the 25 p per min line that i was supposed to, we agreed a date & time (AM) for the engineer to call, he didnt!
When i tried to contact VM (which was impossible for one whole day) I got through to the offshore call center general help line the next day and explained that because my VM landline was dead, and my VM mobile could not call the premium rate number, and I was at work, so still couldn't call the prem number, because it was blocked, could he log or transfer me to the support number, which was the only way I could rebook the engineer. Well he tried, but the line was busy, (surprise - surprise), he suggested I phoned back in 15 mins, I asked if I would be transfered to the support line to log the call when I called back, he now said no. I asked him how I should log the call, given the circumstances? his reply was, " i cant comment", flabbergasted, I asked to speak to someone who could, and was put through to his supervisor, who suggested I called from a pay phone and requested that I request VM to call me back on that number, now I don't know about you, bit I haven't used a urinated call box since I was a kid! and was not about to. Subsequent calls then gave me three versions of events! I could go on, but Im sure you get the drift.
In conclusion both companies have failures, if reporting problems with using any VM services, try to get a ID of one of the UK call center guy's, then when calling in, ask the guy who ans the phone to email that person with your phone number, I have found this to work. The offshore guys don't have a clue whats going on however i did read the comments above from one of those guy's, and do appreciate their dilemma.
Dont trust sky, they will rip money out of your account, and then say, I told you so, when they did not!
i now have access over my good broadband connection (soon to go to 20mb, hopefully) to the footie games, and will be investigating using a local co to set up sat.
I do believe the future technology advantage lies with cable, however at the moment, its hard to reconcile. Report abuse
by Bev
at 10:09 on 17 Jan 2008
Had a mobile contract with Orange which was a complete rip off and we've now terminated to go with Virgin. Had a sky box. Although I do like Sky I've had lots of trouble with the sound, an engineer has been out and can't tell us what it is and they won't replace the box so I have lived with this problem. On top of that by going with Virgin Media's 4 for £40 I will save myself £100 per month.
Hopefully this will all work out!!! Report abuse
by Stu
at 01:43 on 27 Jan 2008
I have been with TW/VM for over 8 years. As soon as it came in to the area I got it, and I have probably phoned them with internet problems about 3-4 times over these years, and only once have I noticed a significant drop in internet speeds enough to complain. Usually it is near 100% the advertised speed.
And yet some people have nothing but trouble.
I really do think it depends on which region you are in.
I think that the loss of Sky One to VM is no big deal and maybe Sky is surprised at the lack of people moving over. When the channel was dropped my fiancé asked if we should change to sky until I pointed out that it was only Nip Tuck that we watched. So I downloaded it on my superiour internet connection over the ADSL tahat we would get being nearly 3 miles from the local exchange. And lets think about it Sky One is hardly a cutting edge channel. Every one of their "major" shows started out on another channel first. Lost C4, 24 BBC2, and they have just bought Heroes rights. Talk about jumping on the band waggon. Report abuse
by Mike
at 11:45 on 9 Feb 2008
I have been with Sky since the Beginning, I spent last year on Chemo Therapy ABVD for Hodgkin’s Lymphoma Stage 3; and let me tell you I hope none of you healthy people ever need it? (Chemo That Is)
I still tried to run my business from home even though I was really ill, and I lost nearly all of my customers and we where really struggling as I am sure you will understand; but I still would not claim because of stupid pride!
Anyway what’s this got to do with Sky? "I Hear You Ask" Well I Telephoned them and explained I need to downgrade because of what I explained above, I received a Scottish Guy who asked why I was downgrading after I had already explained? And I told him again and he Shouted "WHY DIDN’T YOU SAY THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE???" In A Talk Down To You Manner!
I lost my temper and told him I would like to speak with someone in Pakistan who could Speak English.
He started shouting and left me hanging on a call that had already cost me £4.25 after spending nearly 17 Minutes pushing buttons before I was connected.
Anyway because of the way I was treated I left Sky and moved over to NTL (Virgin Media) And So Did My Daughter, 4 Sons, My Eldest Grand Son, And many other Relatives who where disgusted in the way Customer Services Treated me especially after the year I had just been through!
Kindest Regards To You All.
Mike Report abuse
by Phallica
at 20:22 on 27 Feb 2008
Oh, but say that you're going to leave them and they'll give you loads of offers and beg for forgiveness.
The trouts. Report abuse
by Steve
at 14:45 on 11 Mar 2008
by Rich
at 20:45 on 11 Mar 2008
Becuase I'm with cable i don't have a BT phone line to pay for - unlike with SKY.... So theres another £10 I'm saving!
How much is it from Broadband, Tv and Phone? Report abuse
by james
at 20:01 on 16 Mar 2008
by Sean Harrison
at 22:07 on 31 Mar 2008
I have Virgin aswell....I have been with virgin media since the analogue cable days since they dug up the streets, NYNEX then Cable&Wireless then NTL then NTL:Testwest and Finally Virgin Media. I've always had TV and Phone with them, then Broadband once they became NTL. And Recently V PVR with HD.
I have never once had a problem with any of the services, There Customer Services are friendly, Fast and do know what they are talking about. I have there 20meg Broadband Service which i use for Steaming Specialist High Definition Video(720p) from the USA, 360 Xbox Live Gaming, And alot of uploading of large video/media files. My service is really fast. doing a speedtest i get around 18meg 99% of the time but never drops below 15meg. also P2P is extremely fast downloading most of the time at about 2.8mb/s...
Okay, now the TV service, Yes of course i was very sad to see Sky One leave the service. but dont day it will return, Sky and Virgin are currently in new discutions over there services, Virgin now own all the UK Channels (UKGOLD, UKLIVING etc) & Bravo and Sci-fi. and they want to refuse them to sky. so hopefully sky will let virgin have the channels back.Also i have read they are also talking about offering virgin some HD channels.
V & HD Service at the moment is limited to VirginHD & BBC HD Channels, But they have alot of HD Content avaliable On-Demand. They have OD programmes from BBC, ITV, and Channel4 in HD. Also Channel4 HD is coming to virgin media soon, it is currently in testing in there beta testing areas. Also There is a good collection of HD Movies on Pay-per-View.
I have to admit the Black Virgin Software slowed the old Pace set-top box, but within a few days of the software being installed they called me, and informed me that i would need a new set-top box and we will send someone out to install it. when ever is best for me, 2 days later i a new samsung box and its was really fast again.
I have never had any problems with picture defects, freezing or quality.
I also have the V PVR with High Def. in a second room, I dont have to pay rental for my original box but can still use in cloning the package i have on my V Box. I have had no problems with Recording any TV Shows or Films and no problems with recording HD Content either,
Just a few weeks ago they called me and told me since they will soon be upgrading the 20meg broadband to 30meg in the next few months and 50mb before Christmas (2008) and i would need a new cable modem to support this. I was told they would be sending a new modem out to me in the post. It arrived the next days by courior.
This seems to be something new they are doing now, they can now post out new hardware, also my friend moved into a new fast that already had the cable sockets. Called them for a new installation, and they just posted out his Cable Modem and Settop box, with Clear, Easy Instuctions and disposable tools.
No more waiting a week for engeneers. I like that...
I have never had any problems with the phone services, and they always call me every few months to make sure they are offering me the best packages for my needs.
I really like the services i get from virgin, I know some people do have faults and problems, i guess i have been really lucky, i just wanted to let you all know that it is not everyone having trouble. I would highly recommend Virgin Media. unless you really want Sky One!!!
One thing i have notices alot on forums is people blaming virgin and richard branson for the problems. please do correct me if i am wrong but Virgin do not own or run Virgin Media, NTL merged with Telewest a couple of years back, then eventully rebranded at NTL:Testwest. then NTL:Testwest just merged with Virgin Mobile as they where already running the mobile services for them. and along with that just brought the Virgin Brand Name. It is still NTL/Telewest running the whole network. just re-branded.... Again, please correcting me if i am wrong....
Okay. I have got to be fair because i pay for Sky HD and Broadband aswell.
it a long story why i pay for Sky and Virgin, TV, Phone, and Broadband. but its all to job with my job paying for me to have Broadband with a BT Line.
I love the Sky Services and there hardware, I can not fault Sky in any way (other than them not giving virgin back the sky channels). They have the nicest TV Setup to use. Lovely clear menus, easy to navigate, lots of content. its easy to record stuff and series link stuff. Picture quality is always stunning. They always keep your hardware upto date. and replace hardware in a couple of days with an engineer. (Im have had 1 sky box go faulty on me, it was replaced quickly).
Sky offer alot of High Definition TV Channels, Content and Films.
There broadband services is good, i'm on the 18meg service, I connect at about 12Meg never any higher. i find uploading video large files very slow, but download rate seems quick, well apart from Youtube(Youtube buffers about 10x faster on virgin cable for some reason)...
Never had any major problems with TV, Phone or Broadband.
Both Companys offer Quality Customer Service & Services
The iome infomation i had talk about has come from other sites and forums. I have tried to confirms most of it with Sky and Virgin Media. There is alot you can get out of them by calling there Customer Services and Technical Support lines. I find if you call there tech support teams, they seem to know more about new servies coming out. also you can call there head-office's and query them about new services like TV Channels and Broadband speeds, the head offices seem to let you know more than the call centres.
little tip for you all aswell. if you want to save money and call british call centres try www.SayNoTo0870.com type Sky or Virgin Media. And the site will list all there 0800 and local rate, and local area numbers.
Hope this has been either helpful or just interesting, or maybe just a waste of your time, but either way i just thought i would inform you.
Cheers
Sean Harrison (Wirral nr Liverpool)
42" Sony 1080p Plasma
50" Panasonic 1080p LCD (second room)
Denon 8.1 HD Surround Sound
8.1 Denon Speakers
Xbox 360 - Wii - PS3
Quad Core HTPC (Vista Ultimiate x64) /w Free-to-air HD Satelitte
Virgin Meida (V XXL - 20Meg Cable - Phone, Second TV Box)
Sky (SkyHD, XXL - 18meg DSL - Phone) Report abuse
by Dan
at 18:47 on 7 Apr 2008
I constantly lose connections to sessions based applications, DNS times requests time out rendering surfing impossible and the bandwidth pluments to NIL every few seconds.
All day last sunday I had practicall no service at all, and recently at peek times the same. Oh and they have stopped answering their support line it now just rings and doesnt even connect to a machine anymore. Great and im paying for this bull****. Report abuse
by David
at 13:13 on 9 Apr 2008
by Wayne
at 22:32 on 9 Apr 2008
Do not use Virgin media they are useless !
They lie to you, stating that your complaint (I have made a total of 5 complaints) has been resolved verbally over the phone, when no contact was made, they even stated that in the conversation that the TV Service was reinstated, a complete lie as I don't have there TV (SKY Is defo the way to go!)
You will defo be ripped off with obscene additional charges and then get no support whatsoever.
Richard Branson spend your millions on better customer service rather than paying Samuel L Jackson to advertise your useless service, I refuse to pay for there incompetence ! Report abuse
by steve
at 12:17 on 21 Apr 2008
richard branson only has shares in the company!!!!!
NTL:Telewest have rented the Virgin brand from Virgin.. From what I understand it is on a 15year agreement!!!
so all you guys that keep dragging richard branson in to it should try reading up on the company first!!! Report abuse
by Damo
at 23:00 on 1 May 2008
by Che
at 13:24 on 2 May 2008
by Ray
at 23:49 on 20 May 2008
by Garth McKagan
at 22:56 on 23 May 2008
by VIRGIN MEDIA RULES
at 17:06 on 30 May 2008
by Tony
at 23:32 on 3 Jun 2008
My main beef though, as an existing customer, im paying 37 a month for my broadband, and 11 a month for my phone. Yet new customers get a permenantly lower price??. I dont mind special 12 month incentives, but why am i paying more for the same service permenantly?.
Will cost me a fortune to get bt back in and sky installed, but this has annoyed me to the point where im changing Report abuse
by Ted
at 17:30 on 8 Jun 2008
Since VM took over its gone SH*T.... My browsing is really slow, im always having to reboot my modem and I just cant be arsed phoning Virgin Customer services after the last 3 hour wait to India....
I stupidly took their TV package too and that is crap. The menus are very slow, the TV on demand menus are soo slow at peak times that I just give up and put a DVD on.
Everytime i bother calling Customer services they tell me to reboot, reboot , reboot which usually does work but I SHOULDNT HAVE TO REBOOT DAILY !!
The only reason im still with them is that I dont want a BT phone line or satalite on my house. Report abuse
by Lee
at 18:36 on 11 Jun 2008
And now they are going to speed throttle more hours. 3Gb might sound like much but I can do this is 20 minutes, so why should I pay for a 20Mb service when after 20 minutes it goes down to 5Mb.
I have the VIP service with VM and 2 extra boxes for the TV, my bill is nearly £100.00 a month, I don’t believe I should pay for a high service and get a limited service.
The final straw was yesterday when I read a report on BBC news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7444390.stm
This says that virgin are going to start monitoring where you go and what you download, why don’t they just listen to me phone calls and read my mail. I can’t believe that this is not a breach of privacy
I am now going back to sky and I do not have a BT line, so this is going to cost me £124.99 to install. But Sky said that if I send them the receipt they will refund all the money.
I have always thought that Sky TV was better than Virgin media TV, but never had any complaints about the phone service or broadband. On changing to Sky and BT, I am saving nearly £40 month, OK it is not a 20MB service but it’s a lot cheaper and not limited. Report abuse
by matti
at 20:30 on 11 Jun 2008
when virgin works correctly, it is really good and has a lot to offer, but until they sort out how to run a damn cable company properly, avoid at all costs. not the service i expect from the virgin group at all, richard branson sell up while you can! Report abuse
by Stephen
at 16:30 on 12 Jun 2008
They will offer you massive discounts to stay I would recommend people to do this once a year when there contract expires. Report abuse
by rory
at 19:35 on 18 Jun 2008
Wife rang later - managed to speak to someone who booked engineer in 30 seconds BUT have to wait until Saturday for engineer to come.
Time for a change I think.. They've been too complacent for too long with existing customers. Report abuse
by James
at 13:38 on 21 Jun 2008
VM TV service well overpriced for what you get.
VM cable broadband was rubbish. In the evening it would slow to 50K or less! Only advantage was the fixed IP, which was handy for an FTP server.
VM Customer service hugely variable. Foreign call centre manned by those with a poor grasp of English. Nearly everyone seemed to have no technical knowledge whatsoever, and just followed a script. (To be fair though, once in a while I did get through to someone who really knew their stuff.) Report abuse
by james
at 21:18 on 1 Jul 2008
by Adam
at 15:37 on 4 Jul 2008
They are giving out information to the record industry and using traffice management without informing there customers.
I am leaving Virgin and will never use any of there products again. Come back Telewest. Report abuse
by David
at 16:32 on 10 Jul 2008
by Hayley
at 08:23 on 15 Jul 2008
by Jp
at 12:50 on 18 Jul 2008
I never seen such a pathetic service in my life.I suppose to get 3 for 21 combo with wireless router. they suppose to deliver it on 8th. then they changed to 15th and no one has courtesy to inform. i need to ring up them when no one turned up. And asked to be there at home. then they shifted to 16th at their convenience. But you know what, they delivered equipments in part. Ok, i thought of trying broadband connection at least. "Activation Servers" are down. Call us tomorrow. Tomorrow never dies for Virgin. Just now, I got a response from them, it will be done by today. letz
When I asked about the procedure for cancellation. Customer Care executive was so keen in doing the same. He was very rude in conversation. Anyway, I dont want to deal with them anymore. If it doesnt work today. I am going throw their product on their face. such a ridiculous support. they dont even know hte basics of "Customer Care". No wonder why Mr. James Weekle accept this obvious truth about his own comapny
Virgin Media's head of internal communications has admitted in public that the cable company has a history of "crap service" and ''very tired people", and has been stuck in "synergy hell" Report abuse
by Loopchef
at 10:32 on 21 Aug 2008
When it changed to Virgin i thought he we go we will obviously catch up with the times, old Branston is the man, i pay huge money for an ok service with my phone, Net and TV, The HD senario pains me hard, i have had it since the day it came out and still have the half of a channel i had at the start, its just poor!! I have read all the stuff about the picture being upscaled and whatever else but its nonsence, my blu ray player compared to a normal Virgin supposidly upscaled picure is like my Mum's TV and not what we should be getting in 2008!!
Now nearly 2 years in to my HD box, still one channel or this half a channel, this is just poor again, if i could i would convert to Sky, but i live in an apartment on a river bank and the management company will not let us have Satalite dishes, i have tried to design ways to do this but just cant seem to do it yet, all i say to Virgin Media is sort it out and get with the times, soon you will be classed like NTL and that wont be good for you or your image, soon Sky will be making flat panel dishes and you will be history!!! Report abuse
by Rachel
at 20:53 on 16 Sep 2008
I hate the tv, it freezes, the menus don't work, its slow and rubbish and the on demand hardly ever works, the phone costs a fortune (even tho im supposed to have free weekend calls, which i don't....) and I'm sick of the thing, we have a bt phone line and are definitly thinking about switching bk to sky.
Im going to ring vm and demand they give me a better deal, im paying a lot more than i would for sky but get less and its all rubbish anyway! If not, il leave, simple as. Rubbish customer service, rude and useless. It cudnt b possible for sky to suck anymore than vm do so i think il take the chance. Report abuse
by Michael
at 15:14 on 15 Oct 2008
I have to admit that prior to the VM take over my NTL account was quite stable and the broadband speeds (albeit I am on the basic package) were consistent with good quality of service levels.
Now, I regularly have my broadband speed drop to 1mb or less and see quality of service levels hovering around the 70% mark.
Had to have the digital box replaced twice before they finally gave me one of the silver samsung boxes. Still not perfect and the flaming thing takes notions when it won't even respond to the remote.
I don't contact them by phone as their 1st line staff (poor sods get the most basic training and those bloody question and answer scripts which are useless) can't deal with anything other than basic billing queries and "I'll send a reset instruction to your box".
In truth though, I have had the most horrendous experiences dealing with BT (did multiple broadband set-ups/ installations for an organisation) and the one experience I had with Sky (my mum in law's new set-up) revealed some worrying problems with their technical support which resulted in over two months of frustration; of course I was the one telling my mum in law her life would be great with broadband - wonderful...
To finish, I think that all the current broadband offerings are over priced, badly provisioned and have poor to pathetic customer focused support, often caused by the pressure on 1st line staff over their call length times and wrap up time - nope I've never worked in a call centre but did tech support for a lot of people who did.
What we need is a government based system to really screw everything up so we can feel good about the services we currently have :) Report abuse
by At least 1 happy customer
at 12:41 on 19 Oct 2008
Yes, there were a couple of minor problems when I moved house at beginning of 2007 but it didn't take long for them to be sorted out. As for compensation over the issues they couldn't do enough for me. You cannot possibly say that Sky would never give the same issues ever and when they do would do as much as a follow up service
Ever since then they have been giving a VERY reliable service and I've not had a single problem with them.
As for the sky plus box, yes it sounds great, would be nice to have a box that you can record onto, pity that VM don't provide one. Oh, wait a minute - yes they do. The V box does exactly what the sky box does and also gives high defintion.
As for the virgin helpline etc, yes they may be offshored, but how many companies can you name that don't have their helplines offshored?
Prices are very similar to Skys because when looking them you have to remember that the BT connection and rental needs to be included. A friend of mine is with sky, they have less channels than me and the rest of the services are exactly the same, they had more problems than I did when the service got set up and also pay more than I do.
If only sky weren't so pigheaded about the Sky 1, 2 etc channels or overpriced the channels so that other companies refuse to pay and therefore provide them (and you say that VM is overpriced). A few of my friends have said that if the sky channels were included then they would switch to VM tomorrow as they are fed up with the service that sky provide.
I simply cannot understand why the people above have such a problem with VM. There may have been one or two problems when they first took over, but they were having to sort issues out. As I say I have been very impressed with VM and would certianly recommend them and I know I'm not the only one. Report abuse
by Kevin
at 13:21 on 29 Oct 2008
I had the full monty with Virgin & my bill was over £100 per month.
I had a sky rep knock my door & like a fool I let him in.
Bottom line I was going to save lots of money, full package £75 per month.
£75 up front for installation. They do eveything - hassle free.
Sky HD box installed on time & going well.
Now the bad bit.
Called sky to ask when phone & internet would be installed.
Said I had not ordered phone & internet.
I had a copy of the form in front of me that said otherwise.
I also had a call from Virgin saying BT had requested to carry my phone number across to them - so someone somewere had done something.
But still told by sky help on the phone I have to ring up & order once I have an active BT line.
Could take up to 15 days once virgin has switched off to get back on line with sky.
Have to wait now unitl 5th of november when virgin turn off all my services
to see what happens next.
If you want my advice don't switch - talk to Virgin to get your package price down.
No doubt still got more hassle & operaters who don't know whats going on to go through before I get my package sorted out. Report abuse
by Sarah
at 17:46 on 1 Nov 2008
By the way we have two computers one which works via ethernet to the router and the other is a mac via airport which is wireless. Report abuse
by tj
at 20:22 on 4 Nov 2008
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by Srpayo
at 16:37 on 2 Dec 2008
1-rent a BT line and get Sky
2- get Virgin Media through Cable (no BT line needed)
I went for the latest although I regret to say the service is very bad. I suffered from the "common" frozen chanels, specially at the time of a football match was going to start and also lost my internet connection several times.
When there is a fault you have to call (because I dont have phone line it costs me ££ to call Virgin Support, only to be talking to some indian guy who doesnt know what the problem is or how to solve it.)
Also a very IMPORTANT thing, they offer SKY channels but they never told me that the INTERACTIVE option to watch several matches at the same time would not work with Virgin. I called them when I wanted to watch my team playing and I wasnt able to do it with the red button. They said its Sky's fault that they dont give Virgin customers this option!
But Im with the dilemma of switching to SKY because it will be more expensive to also pay for a BT line apart from their services...aaaaaagh!
Sooo: dont get Virgin if you have a phone line. Report abuse
by phil
at 01:21 on 16 Dec 2008
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at 13:21 on 19 Mar 2009
by Matt
at 13:04 on 30 Mar 2009
I use the speedtest. net to test the system and when you are asked to rate the service which i do , with one out of five the results still say this is telewest , so the results of my rating are not showing up on Virgins rating. Go elsewhere , they are a nightmare Report abuse
by Ron
at 01:04 on 2 Apr 2009
If you phone Virgin Media and ask why they charge they will deny they are charging you, they will lie to you and fob you off. The RNIB are currently looking into my complaint as Virgin Media have proven to be quite unwilling to admit that they are excessively charging disabled people for using this 'free' service. Report abuse
by Russell
at 23:07 on 15 Apr 2009
I paid on the first month, set up a direct debit, it never took out my money, they charged me for a second time am month later, I once again set up the direct debit.
A third time the direct debit never left my account, I wrote a letter of complaint, I never even got a response.
So i left them. Report abuse
by u need to know
at 16:56 on 12 May 2009
at first, the connection was rubbish, and I was'nt getting any help, or the help that I thought I deserved, but I realised that my connection was crap because more people where picking up my connection!
Virgin don't secure your modem for you, u do it yourself, not like AOL, or SKY. After securing my connection with WSP password, plus turned on the access control on with another password, My broadband was what they said it would be, but not in peak hours. The broadband connection was extremely fast, download & upload, so guyz before complaining about your connections check if its secured or not, cause I have the 20mb, but at first it was like 4mb or 8mb in non peak hours, imagine what it was in peak hours, lol.
but when I secured my connection (making sure it is'nt picked up by anyone) I got what I paid for and can't complain about their broadband, I don't have a phoneline cause I don't need one....got my virgin mobile with the package, and am looking to get the 50mb thats out now to see the out come as the 20mb is superb after securing it.
Most of you that are complaining probably have another 5 people using they're connection and you don't even know about it! So make sure your connection is fully secured, if u still have problems then probably they're's to many people using virgin in your area so change to something else. Report abuse
by Mat | registered | 1 post
at 22:23 on 29 May 2009
I realised I was paying more than new customer, considered leaving but realised that an upgrade would give me access to a faster internet and to a new customer tariff. It wasn't worth going for ADSL as I don't have an old BT line or socket connected to my house.
Since last week I have switch to 50Mb and ask to get their Medium TV package with HD. Since I have lost my internet connection all together and got the standard TV box.
Regarding the TV box they wanted to charge me an extra 50 pounds to schedule a new install so I could get the V+ (the HD model they claim I did not originally ask for) when it was their fault for not taking it into account. I called their cancelling department and suddenly the rules had changed. They since scheduled a time (in 3 weeks time) to install the V+ and canceled the additional installation. What a customer service...
Anyway the HD TV was the least of my problems, here is the real problem: no internet connection for a week (and no sign of any fix so far).
In a week, I have made numerous calls to their call center in India to which I have to re-explain again and again the same story. All they seem to be able to do is ask me to re-start my modem and make an appointment with a technician within the next 4 days. Sometimes they add insult to injury by asking to provide my credit card details in case I do not turn up for the appointment. Every time I or my partner have to take time off work to open the door to the technician.
So far 2 technicians visited the house (actually it was the same technician who came twice) who kept repeating the same: the fault is coming from their exchange. No one in the area has 50Mb yet. It will be fixed today. However he doesn't seem to be able to escalate the problem very far.
Every time on the phone it is the same story. They really don't have a clue, ask you to repeat your issue from the start. (they visibly do not take notes on their system) and then go through their same patronising scripts (un-plug replug modem and restart, tell me what lights are on... etc). No follow up, no help and no way to escalate the issue at any point. It feels this could go on like that forever. This is sheer frustration.
I feel stuck because I'm committed for another 12 months since my upgrade, I cannot cancel later than after the initial 7 days and anyway I feel it will take me a long time to turn around with another provider as I don't have any BT line in the house (previous loggers have always used Telewest it seems). During that time: no internet connection, I have to use my mobile phone with 3G to send this blog entry.
I really feel left down. What can I do to get out of this? Report abuse
by John Clarke
at 12:20 on 31 May 2009
by Michael
at 11:37 on 3 Jun 2009
Customer service is very poor and they have not resolved the issue yet despite me opening 6 fault tickets and chasing them every other day.
Only when I threatened to sue them the fault has finally been escalated and they replaced the equipment in the exchange. However the problem is not solved yet. 5 months and counting Report abuse
by Supermac008 | registered | 1 post
at 22:32 on 5 Jul 2009
by Karl
at 14:42 on 20 Jul 2009
When we joined the services in 2006 it was ntl: and we had no problems what so ever with the services.
As vm took over ntl: in 2007, the bills were more expensive and the services increasingly got very poor and internet connections were disconnected occasionally.
The bills were in the hundereds for no apparent reasons and they were still billing us when the services were switched off. They accused me of not paying the bills scince february when i remember paying a full bill in april of £188. these bills are out of order!
I seriously advise anyone to join sky before virgin media! Report abuse
by Brian ex Virgin
at 08:44 on 17 Aug 2009
I cancelled my Broadband in March they keep taking the same amount out every month since and over 20 phone calls, although they say they will refund this amount? they pressed the wrong button (so they say) and sent me a bill for this amount instead of a credit, they owe me and have even sent this to a debt recovery agent Moorcroft who are just as bad at sorting out any problems.
They now have my money and have put me on a bad debt list.
Please don't deal with Virgin!
Brian ex Virgin
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by Martin
at 23:39 on 10 Sep 2009
Now today a DNS problem has again taken down my net for the last 6 hours, finally got back only to get disconnected every 2 mins....
Dont even get me started on the TV package...our control didnt work we couldnt turn over the box, phoned support and it took 2 months and 6 phone calls to get a new control sent and constant arragant replys on the phone from them saying it has been sent and we will recieve in 3 days. maybe 3 days for them is 2 months in our time?
Still with these bunch of muppets at the moment but my advice to others is dont deal with the Virgins. Report abuse
by Claire B
at 15:13 on 15 Oct 2009
I am currently a Virgin customer but after months and months of problems I've just phoned Sky only to find out they're cheaper.
I have had nothing but problems with Virgin – with both my TV, broadband and phone.
I can't begin to tell you how many hours I have wasted trying to resolve the problems – from waiting on hold for literally hours to speak to some robot in India who's advice was only ever to reboot either my TV or internet (longest time so far has been over an hour before I even got to talk to someone!) to taking time off work to wait for engineers. And I'm still experiencing problems – nearly every day in fact. This morning I couldn't access the TV as my set top box was frozen and the only response I got (after being told to reboot of course) was they would send out an engineer but that would take 5 days! My internet access is sporadic at best and when I can actually get on-line I'm often disconnected after a short space of time.
All of this and it's costing me nearly £50 a month for the privilege!
I have had enough of being treated like a mug and will definitely make the switch. Dealing with Virgin only ever leaves me frustrated, angry and hugely disappointed. Don't do it!
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by tony wad
at 00:24 on 7 Dec 2009
